"Formless-sphere Consciousness", Abhidhamma Lectures, 27-01-2019, အရွင္ ပေညာဘာသ Venerable Ashin Pannobhasa, TBSO Mahasi, https://www.tbsousa.org ***** In order to get Arūpāvacara Jhānas, one must already have the five Rūpāvacara Jhānas. One must be able to enter them. One must be able to enter into them. One must be very familiar with these five Rūpāvacara Jhānas. Based on the five Rūpāvacara Jhānas especially the fifth, the Yogi will go on to the Arūpāvacara Jhānas. These Jhānas are mundane. Therefore, they can be attained even when there are no Buddhas. They can be attained by people who are not Buddhists. There are people who find fault with the physical body. They think that we suffer because we have this physical body. Because we have this physical body we have lots of ailments, diseases, aches, pains and so on. Also depending on this physical body we quarrel with each other because we hurt each other and so on. If we can be without this physical body, we would be very happy.